霍伊博格成本季第二名丟掉飯碗主教練;此決定太倉促?下一個是誰

[Charania] The Chicago Bulls fired head coach Fred Hoiberg

Shams Charania報道:芝加哥公牛隊解僱主教練弗雷德-霍伊博格,助教Jim Boylen將擔任主教練。

霍伊博格成本季第二名丟掉飯碗主教練;此決定太倉促?下一個是誰


[–]BullsHowAreTheseTaken 4874 points 7 hours ago

I had no clue this was even being considered. Wow

公牛球迷:我去,我在此之前都不知道公牛還動過要炒霍伊博格的念頭啊。

[–]Knicks TankswagonDeenisdecent 2972 points 7 hours ago

Wow. Were they expecting to win games with this sqaud? How

尼克斯球迷:驚了。公牛難道是指望靠這套陣容贏球嗎?咋贏啊?

[–][TOR] OG AnunobyN7Brendan 1509 points 7 hours ago*

Not to mention even if they were, they’ve had huge injuries

This is weird I thought Hoiberg was more or less well liked in Chicago recently

Edit: well liked wasn’t the best wording, perhaps indifferent

猛龍球迷:而且就算公牛真的這麼指望,他們也遭遇了一大波傷病啊。

這太詭異了,我還以為霍伊博格近來在公牛多少也算是備受歡迎呢。

補充:“備受歡迎”這詞用的不合適,大概該用“無所謂”吧。

[–]BullsFletch71011 351 points 7 hours ago

He used to be hated, and now the Bulls fire him when he is well-received. Typical Bulls back office shit. Fire GarPax.

公牛球迷:霍伊博格之前受人憎恨,等到他終於被普遍認可了,卻被公牛掃地出門了。這是典型的公牛管理層翔操作,該走人的是GarPax[譯註1]。

[譯註1]:指公牛總經理Gar Forman和籃球事務總裁John Paxson,兩人因為做出一系列糟糕操作而飽受公牛球迷怨恨。兩人因此也被合稱為“GarPax”。

[–][CHI] Denzel Valentineedgarvanburen 406 points 7 hours ago

Eh. The locker room was a mess during the Butler/Wade/Rondo season.

公牛球迷:呃,“備受歡迎”……巴特勒/韋德/隆多那個賽季的更衣室可是一團亂麻啊。

[–]Pacersbusche916 37 points 7 hours ago

Serious question: are there 5 coaches in the league who could handle that locker room dynamic? I know Hoiberg didn't set the league *河蟹*, but that seems like a pretty flimsy excuse to add to the list of why he was let go...

認真地問:你能在聯盟裡找出五個可以處理好那更衣室環境的教練麼?我承認霍伊博格沒能威震聯盟,但把那個賽季的更衣室問題加到炒他的理由裡面好像有點牽強了啊……

[–][TOR] OG AnunobyN7Brendan 1121 points 7 hours ago*

Yeah but I’m talking recently with this new team, he wasn’t expected to win and I haven’t heard any complaints about him since really

Also Butler/Wade/Rondo was a terrible locker room? Reeeeaaaallllyyyy??? I’m stunned lmao

猛龍球迷:是這樣,不過我說的是最近的這支公牛。大家並不期待霍伊博格能帶隊打出好成績,我最近也沒聽到任何抱怨他的聲音。

不過巴特勒/韋德/隆多的更衣室真的糟透了麼?真的麼真的麼真的麼?我震驚了哈哈哈。

[–][CHI] Derrick RoseOcho-Ocho-Ocho 380 points 7 hours ago

Yep, was never a huge fan of Hoiberg but this is premature. Garpax fucked up.

公牛球迷:我從來不是霍伊博格的死忠,但現在解僱他確實為時過早。GarPax特麼搞砸了。

[–]RaptorsPuddinsnack 710 points 7 hours ago

"Garpax fucked up" should be the slogan for the Bulls.

“GarPax特麼搞砸了”應該成為公牛的官方口號。

[–][CHI] Bobby PortisJoakim_Jong-il 124 points 7 hours ago

They make weird decisions, but they draft pretty good.

公牛球迷:他們的決策總是奇怪,選秀眼光卻很不錯。


[–]LakersJust_Chiming_In_Here 299 points 7 hours ago

Something must have been brewing behind the scenes? Otherwise this seems rather impulsive...

幕後一定是有啥不為人知的事吧?不然這決定也太突然了吧……

[–]Timberwolvespuckallday 260 points 7 hours ago

they want to tank harder

他們想擺爛擺得更猛更深更用力。

[–][LAL] Elgin BaylorWordsAreSomething[?] 206 points 7 hours ago

They already have the third worst record. That's the perfect spot to park a tank.

可是他們的戰績已經是聯盟倒數第三了啊,把擺爛坦克車[譯註2]停在這正合適。

[譯註2]:“擺爛(tank)”在英語中也有坦克的意思。

[–]KnicksMichaelcandy 703 points 8 hours ago

you can tank even better without a coach

可沒了主教練,你還能爛上加爛呢!

[–]RaptorsVinceJumpmanCarter 246 points 7 hours ago

They're riddled with injuries to key players, what exactly did the Bulls FO expect lol

猛龍球迷:公牛的關鍵球員們傷了個遍,他們管理層還想琢磨啥呢

[–][LAL] Brandon IngramHolyRomanPrince 174 points 7 hours ago

The good ole GarPax scapegoat

湖人球迷:又是掩護GarPax撤退的替罪羊情節唄。

[–]BullsDr_Mantis-Toboggan 67 points 7 hours ago

Hoiberg is pretty much their son so I don't think this is it.

公牛球迷:霍伊博格簡直是管理層親兒子,所以我不覺得真相是這樣的。

[–]KingsStarWarsMonopoly 66 points 7 hours ago

Exactly. They hand picked this guy and gutted the entire roster to bring in guys they thought would fit his Iowa State system.

It didn't work, and its only gotten worse since his first season.

太對了。管理層親手選了這傢伙當主教練,又把球隊拆了個底朝天,好引進他們心中適合霍伊博格愛荷華州大體系的球員。

然而卻並沒什麼卵用,自霍伊博格開始執教起,球隊走的一直是下坡路。

I'm not really sure why people are that surprised. Maybe the timing is questionable, but the Fred was not the future of the Bulls

我不知道為什麼大家這麼驚訝。解僱的時間點可能有待商榷,但霍伊博格絕對不是公牛的未來。

[–]BullsDr_Mantis-Toboggan 128 points 7 hours ago

The timing is downright objectively bad. The fact that we're reportedly just promoting our associate head coach to permanent head coach is even worse. If Hoiberg wasn't right for the team, what makes GarPax think another member of his staff would be better? I don't know Boylen's style but this is so so weird.

公牛球迷:解僱的時間點豈止有待商榷,簡直是徹頭徹尾的糟糕透頂。而公牛讓首席助教升任正式主教練的報道讓這個決定顯得更糟糕了。如果霍伊博格和球隊不搭,那GarPax憑啥覺得他教練組裡的其他人就能改善現狀?我不知道Jim Boylen風格如何,但這事太過奇怪了。

[–]BullsPropellantHosteller 79 points 5 hours ago

Recap of the timeline of Hoiberg's tenure:

Year 1: Inexperienced college coach takes over the veteran roster of Thibs who was just fired. Poor FO decision.

公牛球迷:回顧一下霍伊博格在公牛執教期間的時間線:

第一年:經驗不足的大學教練接過剛剛被炒的錫伯杜的老兵油子陣容。此乃管理層的糟糕決策。

Year 2: The core becomes Rondo/Jimmy/Wade and surprise surprise locker room trouble, and the Bulls still are potentially a Rondo injury away from upsetting the 1 seed Celtics.

第二年:球隊核心變成了隆多/巴特勒/韋德。更衣室出了亂子(多新鮮吶)。即使如此,若是隆多沒傷,公牛本有可能在季後賽首輪黑八凱爾特人。

Year 3: Finally Hoiberg gets the young roster you'd think would fit him, we are bad as expected but still exceeded all preseason expectations and landed a good pick in Wendell Carter Jr

第三年:終於,霍伊博格得到了看起來適合他的年輕陣容。我們的表現同預期一樣糟糕,但至少也超過了賽季開始前的各路預期,而且選秀撿到了溫德爾-卡特這塊寶。

Year 4: The supposed core of Dunn, LaVine, Lauri, and Wendell have played no games together and excluding Dunm have only played one, and he gets fired.

He may not be a great coach but my god what is the man supposed to do.

第四年:預期中的球隊核心鄧恩,拉文,馬爾卡寧和溫德爾-卡特就沒能一塊健康上場過,去掉鄧恩剩下的人也才一起打了一場球,然後霍伊博格就被解僱了。

他可能不是個頂呱呱的教練,但蒼天吶,你到底要他如何是好啊。


[–]Bullsdemo4 2399 points 7 hours ago

I genuinely feel like GarPax uses a magic 8 ball for half of their decisions

公牛球迷:我真心覺得,GarPax的一半決定是用神奇八號球[譯註3]做出來的。

[譯註3]:一種占卜玩具,外表看似黑色八號檯球,一面有三角形窗口,在提問並搖晃球后,球體內的二十個備選答案之一會浮現在窗口。備選答案包括下文中的“預兆指向‘是的’”、“毫無疑問”、“很有可能”、“現在無法預測”、“我的回覆是‘不’”等等。

[–]not_so_magic_8_ball 811 points 7 hours ago

Signs point to yes

預兆指向“是的”。

[–]WizardsNoNoir 490 points 7 hours ago

"Magic 8 Ball, should I trade Jordan Bell for a couple million?"

"Without a doubt"

"We're about to fleece these idiots at Golden State"

“神奇八號球,我應不應該交易走喬丹-貝爾,換來幾百萬美元呢?”

“毫無疑問。”

“哈哈哈金州這些傻B要被我們宰啦。”

[–]SpursRLLRRR 58 points 4 hours ago

Cash Considerations is mad underrated. Multi-sport player (MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, you name it), no off the field issues, well liked, every team wants him.

“現金考慮”被嚴重低估了。這傢伙縱橫於好幾項運動(職業棒球、籃球、橄欖球、冰球,你說有啥他不行的吧),沒有場外問題人見人愛,每支球隊都想要他。


[–][WAS] Rasheed WallaceRallyPigeon 507 points 8 hours ago

What exactly did Hoiberg do to deserve this?

霍伊博格到底做了什麼,才會慘遭被炒?

[–][CHI] Ryan Arcidiaconojordonkry 959 points 8 hours ago

Have 4 injured players

公牛球迷:因為隊中有四名傷員吧。

[–]CelticsBrad-Stevens 2197 points 8 hours ago

Not even gonna let him have a month with his full squad?

就讓他帶全員健康的陣容打一個月都不行麼?

[–]KlaysToaster 965 points 8 hours ago

Not even two games

打兩場比賽都不行。

[–][CHI] Ryan Arcidiaconojordonkry 555 points 7 hours ago

Not even one game

打一場比賽都不行。

[–][TOR] Vince CarterWalterDwight 181 points 7 hours ago

Yeah Kris Dunn is back soon isnt he? He had a great second half last year

是這個理啊,克里斯-鄧恩很快就要復出了對吧?他上賽季後半段打得很棒。

[–][CHI] Derrick RoseOcho-Ocho-Ocho 132 points 7 hours ago

Portis and Dunn will be back in a couple weeks yeah

公牛球迷:對的,波蒂斯和鄧恩幾周後就回歸了。

[–]RaptorsEugeneWasTaken 149 points 8 hours ago

Markkanen just came back though???

不過馬爾卡寧剛復出啊,急什麼???

[–][OKC] Paul GeorgeIncaseAce 200 points 8 hours ago

To coach the team obviously

顯然馬爾卡寧是復出執教啊。


[–]Samster912 152 points 7 hours ago*

Hoiberg must have said something to upset Garpax.

霍伊博格一定是說了什麼氣炸GarPax的話。

[–][CHI] Michael JordaniPlowedYourMom 347 points 7 hours ago

"NY style is the best pizza"

“紐約披薩天下第一![譯註4]”

[譯註4]:芝加哥以深盤披薩聞名,與紐約披薩風格迥異。

[–][CHI] Ryan Arcidiaconojordonkry 232 points 7 hours ago

"Maybe trading for Cameron Payne wasn't the best decision"

“交易來卡梅隆-佩恩有可能並不是最好的選擇。”

[–]Lakersyuhanz 90 points 7 hours ago

"We should let Bobby suckerpunch our players for faster development."

“我們應該讓波蒂斯突襲痛打每名公牛球員,好讓他們成長得更快。[譯註5]”

[譯註5]:此前波蒂斯曾與米羅蒂奇在訓練時大打出手,米羅蒂奇面部骨折住院,但在被交易到鵜鶘後表現良好。


[–]Mavericksmendelsin 1115 points 8 hours ago

Uh was this expected or am an idiot for being surprised

呃,這是預料之中的嗎?還是吃了一驚的我太蠢了?

[–][CHI] Denzel Valentineedgarvanburen 857 points 8 hours ago

Firing him after this season would make some sense I guess, firing him in December is very strange

公牛球迷:在賽季結束後解僱他大概合理多了,在十二月就炒他的魷魚非常詭異。

[–]BullsBioJoltz 531 points 7 hours ago*

It's the same organization that fired Scott Skiles on Christmas Eve so it doesn't surprise me at all.

Edit: Also depressing this is probably the only time the Bulls will be at the top of the NBA news cycle this season.

公牛球迷:也正是這支俱樂部在平安夜炒了斯科特-斯凱爾斯,所以我一點都不驚訝。

補充:不過令人很壓抑的是,這很可能是公牛這賽季唯一一次佔領NBA新聞頭條了。

[–]LakersBjornIngi21 330 points 7 hours ago

Damn that’s hella fucked up bro.

“Merry Christmas and go fuck yourself.”

臥槽,平安夜開除人也太特麼不地道了吧。

“聖誕快樂,玩誕去吧。”

[–]Thunderlimark 176 points 7 hours ago

Depends how you spin it, getting paid big bucks and not having to work is a cool Christmas present

這得看你從什麼角度看了。掙著大筆薪水還不用上班是份很酷炫的聖誕禮物啊。

[–][NYK] Frank NtilikinaTomWarden 11 points 4 hours ago

Yea, but seeing your family while your name is in headlines for being fired is tough.

是挺好,但你在走親訪友之際發現自己的名字出現在炒魷魚的頭條新聞裡……還是挺難熬的。

[–][CHI] Derrick Rosejeric13xd 244 points 8 hours ago

GOOD MORNING TO YOU TOO

Wow

Edit: unexpected is an understatement

公牛球迷:大家夥兒早上好啊。

啥?霍伊博格下課了?”

補充:說“意料之外”都還是輕的。

[–][CHI] Derrick RoseGoldyTrash 717 points 8 hours ago

what the feck

公牛球迷:這他喵什麼鬼。

[–][OKC] Paul GeorgeIncaseAce 225 points 7 hours ago

I saw a lot of optimism from you guys this season

I’m hoping this is happening because they have a great coach in mind or something

雷霆球迷:這賽季,我從你們身上看到了很多樂觀與希望。

但願公牛炒了霍伊博格只是因為他們有更好的教練人選。

[–]PistonsArnieKander69 115 points 7 hours ago

I doubt there is a great coach available at this point in the season. So if you have a great coach in mind, there is no reason to fire Hoiberg now and leave the rest of your season in the hands of an interim coach.

賽季都打到現在了,我很懷疑還有哪個好教練在等著上崗。所以如果你真的看上了哪個好教練,那也沒道理現在就解僱霍伊博格然後讓過渡教練帶隊打完剩下的賽季啊。

[–]76erssuperduperdominic 10 points 6 hours ago

Tyronn Lue

泰倫-盧瞭解一下。

[–]BullsSwazi 94 points 7 hours ago

This season is lost. They better have someone in mind this offseason that’s better than Fred tho.

Just don’t get it. I thought we were in rebuild? I mean, you’re not gonna win a lot in rebuild mode. Just get the high draft pick and go.

Whatever. I’ll miss ya Fred.

公牛球迷:這賽季已經玩完了。公牛最好在休賽期找個比霍伊博格強的教練。

我還是不懂這個操作,我還以為我們正在重建呢?重建就意味著你會勝少負多啊?帶著高位選秀權走人就完事了。

不管如何吧,我會想你的,霍伊博格。

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